Rhaegar: was Jon’s father the true hero of Game of Thrones?

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  • Published: 27 November 2017
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    Who was Jon Snow’s father, Rhaegar Targaryen? What were his political plans for his father, Mad King Aerys? What were his beliefs about the prophecy of Azor Ahai and the three heads of the dragon?

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Comments • 5 161

  • Marjannah Kim
    Marjannah Kim  4 hours back

    Yeah right. Rhaegar left his original wife and two kids, marry another girl to conceive his third child that meant absolutely nothing in the end. JON AND HIS SIBLINGS (RHAENYS AND AEGON) DESERVED BETTER!! DAMN IT HBO! WHY DO YOU HAVE TO EXILE JON TO THE WALL??

    Still so disappointed grrr.

    • Targaryen Boy
      Targaryen Boy  8 hours back

      No one gives a f*uck

      • Project Deadpool
        Project Deadpool  10 hours back

        All Rhaegar Targaryen did was fuck Lyanna the stark slut. Now you call him a hero for this?

        • Ayesha Niazi
          Ayesha Niazi  16 hours back

          Sad that none of this really meant anything in the end :(

          • TheGamingPanda
            TheGamingPanda  23 hours back

            Mark my words this is what the prequel will be about

            • Max Pays
              Max Pays  1 days back

              hopefully in the prequels we see more of the targaryen house. They are the most fascinating and powerful house in Westeros, shame we only saw viserys and daenerys in the show

              • Rohitha choudhary
                Rohitha choudhary  1 days back

                Is anyone else bothered by his pronunciation of Lyanna?

                • Richard  Donaldson
                  Richard Donaldson  2 days back

                  You Know Nothing Jon Snow now sounds even more ironic

                  • Bipolar
                    Bipolar  3 days back

                    Aegon Targaryen could still be alive

                    • Naruto Uzumaki
                      Naruto Uzumaki  4 days back

                      whenever he says "laiyana" a part of me dies :(

                      it's lyanna ffs

                      • Snake Pliskin
                        Snake Pliskin  4 days back

                        They should make a side movie for the battle of the trident

                        • Drogon Dracarys
                          Drogon Dracarys  5 days back

                          Rhaegar was in love with her he wasn't thinking with his dick! He is a hero 🙏🏼👑

                          • Drogon Dracarys
                            Drogon Dracarys  5 days back

                            Targaryen are true heroes of GOT not fuking, stupid Starks

                            • Nordic Gaming
                              Nordic Gaming  5 days back

                              Rhaegar died in episode 6 and he was a complete idiot. Somehow I find it hard to take this title serious.

                              • El Faraz
                                El Faraz  7 days back

                                I think jon story was same as rhaegar

                                • Nitin Chauhan
                                  Nitin Chauhan  1 weeks back

                                  Your thumbnail ruined the show for me..

                                  • Wyatt L
                                    Wyatt L  1 weeks back

                                    this just blew my mind into a million pieces thank you

                                    • TechJunkie
                                      TechJunkie  1 weeks back

                                      Moral of the story? Lyanna got some of that bomb ass pu**y!! Seriously, sparks must have shot out of her ass lmao.

                                      • mIsland49
                                        mIsland49  1 weeks back

                                        12:59 "Azor Ahai tempered lightbringer with the heart's blood of his own beloved wife" Jon Snow kills Dany with a dagger

                                        • Novak Kavon
                                          Novak Kavon  1 weeks back

                                          I read the books i seen the show i watched every george rr martin interview and D &D interviews ,i listend to everything about the topic from fans to creators i have never heard or read a definitive word were rhaegar is jon father ...like nowhere ...we get hints to lyana and rhaegar story we get visions seen by bran in the show and all the cluess on the topic but nowhere by nothing either written or shown on tv were anybody but bran say this ...Sam finds out about marriage annulment bran see them getting married but again nothing showes rhaegar is the father ...i mean im not saying he is not i just find it funny how everybody just accepted it as truth when george rr martin always says dont trust in the stories ..and the 3 eyed raven ? Well nan said in the beginning of the show "dont trust crows they all liars" she said that to bran ...it could all be metaphorically like George saying to us dont belive nothing if you havent lived it if you havent experienced it..storys get warped misinterpretated...dont know is to obvious like if you read the books and watch tv show i knew this would be before even finishing 3 book..apsolutely no suprise when the show implied this...but im not sold 100 percent maybe 70 percent ...

                                          • Ike Sweitzer
                                            Ike Sweitzer  1 weeks back

                                            Azor Ahai should have tried tempering Lightbringer in hot oil after a few normalizing cycles. Not to sure why he jumped immediately from water to live animals.

                                            • Gingerbread Man
                                              Gingerbread Man  1 weeks back

                                              Idk much about this kind of stuff but isn’t there enough evidence like this to claim that Drogon is Azor Ahai or lightbringer?

                                              • Melissa SCHULZ
                                                Melissa SCHULZ  1 weeks back

                                                INDEEPGEEK does an amazing series in R&L. You should check it out. It’s superlative, and I think you’d enjoy the philosophical analysis.

                                                I enjoyed this video immensely. Thank you for posting it.

                                                • Ridi Ganteng
                                                  Ridi Ganteng  1 weeks back

                                                  fuckin Rhaegar is Griffith all along

                                                  • Lavindu Siyambalapitiya

                                                    Bro this is way too complicated for D&D

                                                    • Brian Lindee
                                                      Brian Lindee  2 weeks back

                                                      I would sleep with a teenager in this type of situation but law's are funny now these days

                                                      • squizill
                                                        squizill  2 weeks back

                                                        Wait so Rhaegar had 2 sons named Aegon???

                                                        • xenosaga8436
                                                          xenosaga8436  7 days back

                                                          No. He had one son named Aegon that D&D just kind of forgot about when making up Jon's name.

                                                        • Yellow peach
                                                          Yellow peach  7 days back

                                                          yes

                                                      • Ronin Dave
                                                        Ronin Dave  2 weeks back

                                                        Rhaegar was the biggest villain as his irresponsible actions led to the deaths of the Stark lord and his heir, the death of his wife and children, and eventually his father along with thousands of others. Why would he be obsessed with Azhor Hai, a myth from 8000 years ago about White Walkers/Others who hadn't showed up for all that time. The Targaryens were Johnny-come-latelys to Westeros. As it turned out in the show, it would have been better had Jon either died or never been born because he is the one who helped deliver a dragon to the Night King to get him across the Wall.

                                                        • Fazi Rizvi
                                                          Fazi Rizvi  2 weeks back

                                                          Ned stark is the true hero and jaime lannister after him, like it or not....

                                                          • R1CKSH4W
                                                            R1CKSH4W  2 weeks back

                                                            Lol too bad none of it mattered in the end. Thanks D&D

                                                            • VICTOR R TALLUTO
                                                              VICTOR R TALLUTO  2 weeks back

                                                              lol

                                                              • TheBrass18
                                                                TheBrass18  2 weeks back

                                                                All these theories ppl make up, and GRRM could just come up and say, “nah, rhaegar was horny and wanted a girl with firm tits”

                                                                • a. rose
                                                                  a. rose  2 weeks back

                                                                  He was the worst husband and father ! Poor Elia

                                                                  • Gonzalo Ortiz corral
                                                                    Gonzalo Ortiz corral  2 weeks back

                                                                    What really surprised me about the GoT TV series is that there's no mention at all of the survival of Aegon Targaryen (Rhaegar's and Elia Martell's son and true heir to the iron throne, even more so than Jon).
                                                                    For those of you who haven't read the books, he was actually never killed by the mountain, and was instead saved by Varys and Ilyrio Mopatis, who plotted to give the iron throne back to the Targaryens.

                                                                    By the end of the books he has started to conquer the east cost of westeros, and plans to take Storm's End.
                                                                    I think he is definately one of the three heads of the dragon, and if he doesn't die (which i hope he doesn't) an ally for Daenerys and Jon against the Night King.

                                                                    • alex939709
                                                                      alex939709  4 days back

                                                                      There's no Nigth King in the books

                                                                  • Captain Average
                                                                    Captain Average  2 weeks back

                                                                    First time I read The Game if Thrones, I legit thought Rhaegar was an asshole and had raped Lyanna and kidnapped her.
                                                                    Safe to say as I read the other books and watched the show and theory videos, my brain was blown apart lmao

                                                                    • Vanessa Ives
                                                                      Vanessa Ives  2 weeks back

                                                                      In the end these two were just plain selfish! No actual great reasoning other then choosing their own wants that would lead to a war, the deaths of many including their family they willingly abandoned!

                                                                      • Executioner Gaboo
                                                                        Executioner Gaboo  2 weeks back

                                                                        imagine Melisandre asking R'hllor a sight of Azor Ahai, and he shows her Jon
                                                                        "what kind of Stannis is this?"

                                                                        • Tawonga the Roman Centurion

                                                                          Damn Rhaegar looks so Ugly

                                                                          • SeaLion _
                                                                            SeaLion _  2 weeks back

                                                                            but what did season 8 do to this??!?

                                                                            • Jack Mcleod
                                                                              Jack Mcleod  2 weeks back

                                                                              Isn’t it spelt John?

                                                                              • Sum Ting Wong
                                                                                Sum Ting Wong  2 weeks back

                                                                                Has this change since Jon Snow stab his “wife” “aunt”

                                                                                • array s
                                                                                  array s  2 weeks back

                                                                                  For me Rhaegar is the biggest villain in the series.

                                                                                  • Costumekiller
                                                                                    Costumekiller  2 weeks back

                                                                                    No. he left his wife she got murdered along with her children

                                                                                    • Baby T Rex
                                                                                      Baby T Rex  2 weeks back

                                                                                      It doesn't matter season 8 is garbage

                                                                                      • Evil Morty
                                                                                        Evil Morty  2 weeks back

                                                                                        Arya is Azor Ahai.

                                                                                        • seasong
                                                                                          seasong  2 weeks back

                                                                                          Tfw youtube is on autoplay and someone spoils game of thrones in the first 9 seconds of the video 😭😭😭

                                                                                          • Walter Clements
                                                                                            Walter Clements  2 weeks back

                                                                                            I had a weird ass dream where Jon and Dany were with eachother in the middle a dragon first jon was fucking it then dany turned it around and got fucked by it and yeah they kept on fighting for it

                                                                                            • Succession Lemon
                                                                                              Succession Lemon  2 weeks back

                                                                                              Love is the death of duty. The perfect summary of this tragic story.